Taylor Swift On Reclaiming Her Music, Using “Secret-Agenty” Tactics As A Director And One Day Making A Feature – Tribeca Festival

Taylor Swift Surprised the guests and put on a stunning acoustic performance all very well With half an hour of thoughtful conversation with the writer-director about filmmaking Mike Mills Feather Tribeca Festival,

After the screening of his short film all very well (Set on the re-recorded version of the album an expanded version of the song of the same name. red released last year), she and Mills covered a range of topics. In addition to briefly drilling down, she talked about the challenges for female directors, the ins and outs of collaboration, and the effort to dramatize a couple’s “failure to communicate.” Sadie Sink and Dylan O’Brien, who play the lead couple all very wellHe was not billed to be part of the afternoon, but he was brought on stage for the latter part of the speech.

Quoting John Cassavetes and describing his “secret-agent-y” strategy of deliberately withholding information from the cast and crew, he displayed a serious mindset about the craft of filmmaking, but that of a popular entertainer. also showed a clear trend. She gave a nod to Mills, a longer video for “I’m Easy to Find” directed by The National (whose guitarist, Aaron Dessner, has been a major collaborator with Swift recently), but found an accessible way to do it. found. “It really inspired me in ways I couldn’t possibly do more,” she said. Plus, she added, “We’re both members of the Aaron Dessner cinematic universe!”

The sold-out crowd at the Beacon Theater performed their worship at intervals throughout the 90-minute program. Mills commented on what felt like a concert on stage and joked, “When I bring my work and they don’t do it, I’ll be very sad,” he said, pointing to the audience. Swift playfully disagreed, asking the crowd about Mills’ most recent feature film. “Who Has Seen” Lets go?” he asked. When he let out a louder and longer scream, Mills said, “I feel out of body.”

Swift said that the push to direct, along with many other aspects of his artistic drive, stemmed from the fact that “I didn’t own my work.” While she omitted details, she was referring to the purchase of Scooter Braun and the 2020 resale of the Big Machine label group, which controlled most of Swift’s master recordings. The transaction meant Swift was not able to say how her previous recordings were marketed or packaged. Swiftologists have scrutinized the songs on her twin Pandemic album, social litrature And EvermoreFor a hint of the Braun saga.

The still-unfolding series of albums such as “Taylor’s Version” red is on purpose to reclaim his power, a feeling he experienced behind the camera all very well, “It was a very difficult time for me,” she said of losing control of her master recordings. “Many of my difficult moments and moments of extreme grief or loss were galvanized into what my life looked like.”

The dialogue did not touch on the real-life relationships that inspired “All Too Well”, but Swift and O’Brien described a scene in the middle of the film in which the two lead characters fight, but then eventually make up and hugged . While the overall concept and outline of the film was scripted and structured, the fight scenes were largely improvised.

“We repeat to ourselves – we go in circles, you know?” O’Brien said. In a traditional project, he said, this type of repetition often cuts out. “But that’s what makes it.” Swift said, “The other person isn’t going to hear you say it, so you say it” This Way. Maybe you say it out loud. … you’re trying to listen. It’s a failure to communicate.”

Mills asked Swift, who has directed several short music videos, whether she intended to pursue a feature film. “I would love to,” she said. “It would be great to write and direct something,” although it will likely be a project with a human scale. all very well, At a later point in the conversation she admitted that “even the privilege of being able to have a camera”, noting that she financed entirely short, few budding filmmakers (particularly women) to do so. are unable to.

In a final turn for an event that was billed as Just Talk, Swift performed “All Too Well,” singing and playing acoustic guitar. Prior to this, she noted that the extended version was only recorded because of fan appetite.

When she got an important line – “F—k patriarchy!” – The crowd reached peak volume with the singing.